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." thank you. gregg: this lawmakers do not reach a deal with regard to the fiscal cliff cuts will go into the defense department. >> reporter: the whole package of spending cuts is $1.2 trillion, half to the defense department. the army, navy, air force marines would take equal cuts according to one analyst who says the impact on the military overall will be, quote, very serious. >> the pentagon and the departments are already in financial trouble, because there has already been a $480 billion cut that is being applied right now as we speak. to take another cut on top of that is devastating. >> reporter: it's not just the military itself that will take a hit, also the defense industry, defense contractors, private companies that do work for the pentagon. one democratic congressman in northern virginia whose district maybe hit the hardest by all of this says it could mean layoffs. >> the large defense contractors will probably be okay, they have significant cash reserves, most of them. the smaller contractors would have trouble getting their lines of credit extended, trouble keeping t
, the spending cuts known as the fiscal cliff, but we are four days away from another financial challenge. that is the debt ceiling. now, compared to reaching your limit on your credit card essentially, treasury secretary timothy geithner said the u.s. is going to reach its borrowing limit on monday. he says, quote, i am writing to inform you that the statutory debt limit will be reached on december 31st, 2012, and to notify you that the treasury department will shortly begin taking certain extraordinary measures authorized by law to temporarily postpone the date that the united states would otherwise default on its legal obligations. there is wiggle room. that is equivalent to two months of borrowing. >>> now to the other financial crisis that could mean higher taxes for all of us. will congress send the country over the fiscal cliff or will they come up with some sort of deal and hit the brakes? the senate returned today hopefully to come up with some kind of deal. dana bash is flling this on capitol hill. i imagine we're all working over the holidays and i fess we're going to be workin
. >>> aloha means good-bye. president obama cuts his hawaiian vacation short to deal with the fiscal cliff. it is already too late? good morning, 7:00 in the east. i'm alina cho. >> and i'm drew griffin. soledad o'brien is off today. "starting point" begins right now. >>> our starting point, a cruel one. a one-two christmas punch from mother nature. tornadoes and blizzards tearing through the south and midwest. >> oh, my god. we need to go. it's right there. >> mobile, alabama, took a real beating. a twister blowing up transformers, leaving more than 25,000 customers without power. reports to damage to homes, a high school, and church. >> it came in behind the church right there, and then all green fluorescent lighting and popping transformers left and right. and we heard the crashing and everything and the power went out. >> i prayed to god as loud as i could, and i was just praying for my safety, and i knew the church was shaking. i just prayed that the church stayed put. >> here is the other half of this story, blizzard conditions blanketing much of the midwest and the northeast will ge
will be cut before new year's to avert the fiscal cliff by extending tax cuts temporarily or tax cuts from people under $250,000 of income. i spoke this morning to a republican member of congress who said, we still can come back next week, and we can still do it, although, you know, mara was talking in her piece about shoppers who think they get a better deal the longer they wait. it's a worse deal for the republican party having waited this long, having gotten beaten on the plan b that speaker boehner was trying to do. the terms are getting worse for republicans, not better. >> a lot of people watching this will say if congress couldn't reach a grand bargain with a self-imposed deadline, this so-called fiscal cliff, when will they ever get together and do something big? is there hope beyond the 31st and 1st of this year that eventually there will be a big deal? >> well, i've always been perhaps excessively optimistic about this, but i think, yes. look, members of congress understand that we have a long-term fiscal problem. they have different visions for how to achieve it. the republican
will the fiscal cliff. $600 billion worth of tax increases and spending cuts. it is supposed to be automatic. but now republicans are suggesting a delay, the president just spoke trying to add pressure to congress to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. listen. >> my preference would have been to solve all these problems in the context of a larger agreement, a bigger deal, a grand bargain, whatever you want to call it, that solves our deficit problems in a balanced and responsible way that doesn't just deal with the taxes, but deals with the spending in a balanced way, so that we can put all this behind us focusing on growing our economy. but with this congress, that was obviously a little too much to hope for at this time. >> let's turn now to chief white house correspondent jessica yellin. let's talk a little bit about the outlines of the deal, the fact that the president came out to make his case and try to push this thing over the finish line. what does the white house have to do to gain the backing it needs. >> reporter: well, what we heard from the president today just now was really an
down toward the fiscal cliff deadline and looming tax hikes and spending cuts, that will impact nearly every single american we are just hours away from a crucial white house meeting of the president obama and leaders from the house and senate will sit down for their first face-to-face since november! but what can they hope to accomplish with so little time left, and at this point do they even want to come up with a solution? joining us oklahoma congressman james langford, incoming chairman of republican policy committee and serves on the house oversight and budget committees. congressman, are we going over the cliff? >> well we certainly hope so, hope not actually, but trying to get this resolved. the house as you know full well passed all of our sequestration documents in may. passed all of our tax documents in august and we have waited for the senate all this time and for the president frankly all this time. frustrating for the house did all our work early and be at the point we never hoped to be at. jon: when senate majority leader harry reid says speaker boehner, leader of the hou
the fiscal cliff, just four days left before we go over the edge triggers tax hikes, spending cuts that could send the nation back into recession. the president calling for members of the congress the back. a gang of six attending. vice president biden, harry reid, house minority leader nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and john boehner representing the republicans. brianna keilar is live from washington. is anybody optimistic that a deal could be done today around a table? >> i will tell you the optimism is sort of sinking. senate majority leader harry reid said he doesn't see how it can get done by january 1st. we heard from president obama before he left from his vacation that he was optimistic. logistically the white house will tell you it's possible. when you listen to what you're hearing some of these congressional leaders say, there's a lot of posturing laying blame to the other side if we do go over the cliff. take a listen. >> republicans are not about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> we are here in wa
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a deal can be cut in time to avert the fiscal cliff. on saturday, the president was at work here in the white house but all eyes were on the senate where negotiators were trading deal points and revenue figures to try to reach an agreement all sides can stomach. the baseline for the president, any bipartisan bill would have to extend unemployment insurance that would affect some 2 million americans and increase taxes for the highest income earners. but negotiators can still work out exactly where that tax increase would hit and whether they would halt an increase in the estate tax. in case those discussions break down, the president asked harry reid to prepare a separate bill to put on the floor of the senate that would raise taxes on households that earn $250,000 or more. now, that's really a democratic proposal and you could expect republicans to block it, so, rather than thinking of that as a stop gap measure, probably think of it as a political measure to shift the responsibility for failure on to republicans just before the nation hits the hour of wreckening. alison? >> than
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want to see a fiscal cliff deal. if it cuts the heck out of all kind of programs, then you can have a deal that is actually a real drag on the recovery as well. maybe not a recession, but a slower year than we otherwise would and slow growth. again, there's two percentage points in the payroll tax scheduled to increase on january 1. if you look at how negotiations are going, it looks like it's going to happen. the typical family's taxes by $1,000 over the course of a year. >> the final one, we are talking debt ceiling. you think the fiscal cliff thing is bad for the economy. you wait and see if they can't get the debt ceiling worked out. >> right. it's one thing to go over the fiscal cliff. that would be bad. we don't want to it happen. a recession may happen. it would be unfortunate. it's different than the u.s. defaulting on the debt. you know, we saw that back in august, 2011, we saw the downgrade of the credit rating. just by having the threat of not approving the debt ceiling increase and the possibility of default. it comes around again at the end of february, beginning of mar
in hawaii and, yes, christmas brings us one day closer to possibly the fiscal cliff, the huge tax increases, spending cuts that could take effect in one week or so. brianna keeler is watching there in hawaii, joining us with the update. first of all, how is the president, how is the first family spending the holiday? >> presumably right now they are sleeping in, suzanne, because it is still very early here as you know. >> what time is it? >> we are expecting of course they'll have a christmas. let's see. 6:00 in the morning bright and early. we've been at it for a few hours. we expect them to have a nice christmas meal at the house they're renting. the white house chef is here. maybe we'll get details on what they are going to eat. there is nothing on the president's public schedule. he is frequently gone and visiting with troops in the past so we wouldn't be surprised if he did that again today. i will tell you that bo the dog is actually along for the ride here in hawaii and the white house released a video where bo just really kind of steals the show. let's look at a little of that. this
hit the fiscal cliff. what happens to your bottom line if you do? january 1st all the bush tax cuts will expire, all of them with taxes going up an average of $1,600 per household. the payroll tax holiday also expires, that means the tax burden will rise an average of $700 per household. extended unemployment benefits, the ones we were talking about with lisa expire, so collection of unemployment benefits will shrink from 79 or 99 weeks back to 26 weeks in six months. the medicare doc fix expires, a 27% cut in physician payments and the alternative minimum tax will expand to 27 million more americans for whom it was not intended. obama care taxes hit, a 0.9% jump in medicare payroll taxes for those earning $200,000 or more, that is likely to happen regardless of whether or not there's any fix. i bring in senator richard blumenthal, a democrat from connecticut. thanks for joining us. we have five days to go. you think we'll get a deal. >> i'm hopeful. there's sufficient time to reach a deal if we use the common ground we have and that common ground is nobody wants to go over the fisc
. a traditionally quiet week could become hellish for traders. as fiscal cliff talks drag into the 11th hour with $600 billion in tax hikes and spending cuts due to kick in early next year, lawmakers will get back to the table later this week after house speaker john boehner's plan b failed to get enough republican support for a vote last week. >>> still, the market has been resilient. despite friday's decline, the s&p 500 posted its best week in four. and with just five trading sessions left in 2012, the dow has advanced 8% while the s&p 500 climbed 13. the nasdaq has jumped 16%. >>> reports are due this week on pending home sales. sales of new homes and a look at home prices in the nation's 20 largest cities. >>> are you still not sure what to get for the person who has everything? new retail numbers show footwear was the fifth most popular gift on shoppers' lists on black friday. a year ago, shoes didn't even make it into the top ten gifts for the season. >>> good news for hollywood. attendance by moviegoers is up more than 5.5% so far this year. ticket revenue is projected to jump by 6%
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the fiscal cliff as a group of democrats push for the extension of most of the bush-era tax cuts, cuts they say staunchly -- they opposed years ago. joining us now to talk about it, tony -- [inaudible] a republican political analyst and consultant and a national political correspondent for talk radio news service. michael is a democratic strategist, and he joins us as well. good to see you both. tony, look, the word we're getting is that harry reid is going to pass an extension of the bush tax cuts for anybody under 250,000, extend unemployment benefits for two million folks. um, now, if that happens, it goes to the house, and the house will probably have to put it up. aren't republicans, your party, going to wish that they had passed plan b? >> absolutely, gregg. look, plan b really should have been our plan a, number one. number two, plan b was really the idea of chuck schumer and nancy pelosi as recently as in this summer. to set the threshold on incomes to a million dollars versus 250,000, allow those tax rates for a million and above go up, the president talked about taxing millio
to head back to washington and jump-start the fiscal cliff negotiations with congress. talks fell apart before christmas. the deadline now is just days away and there is no deal in sight to avoid the tax hikes and spending cuts set to go into effect january 1st. our juan williams is a fox news political analyst and he joins us today and very quickly, juan, merry christmas to you. >> merry christmas, kelly. kelly: this is daunting task facing congress to avert the so-called fiscal cliff that will set into motion more than $600 billion in drastic and draconian allic tax hikes and spending cuts. that will cause a lot of pain for all americans and does congress have enough time to act on this? >> they do. you know it will be very close and it may in fact go beyond the deadline per se although people are thinking at the moment it is possible to get something done by the end of this week. the key here, kelly, is the senate. we have been so focused on the house, speaker boehner, plan. about, plan b falling apart. now speaker boehner is pointing towards the senate and the white house is pointin
, if we go over the f 'tis cal cliiscal cl should buy some room. the fiscal cliff is a cut in taxes and a cut in spending which should relieve some of the spending toward the debt limit. it is a factor in terms of long range planning for the united states government. but actually going over the cliff might buy some more time. so i think what secretary geithner was doing was sort of issuing a warning saying we should take care of this now. whatever the plan is in the last five days or even if it's right after the new year should probably take into account the fact we're going to need more room under that debt ceiling at some point. >> jonathan allen, we'll rely on you throughout this crisis to see what's going on. thanks for joining us this morning. >> take care, drew. >>> he was hoping he'd be home by christmas but former president george h.w. bush is still in intensive care at a houston hospital. he's got an elevated fever. the nation's 41st president is on a liquid diet. he's listed as guarded. he's the 88-year-old bush coping with christmas in the hospital? well, his spokesman qu
at avoiding the fiscal cliff. the sharp tax increases and across the board spending cuts scheduled to take effect next week. cnn's white house correspondent brianna keilar is traveling with the president. >> reporter: president obama will leave tonight, travel overnight and arrive in washington late thursday morning as the senate is set to reconvene. all eyes right now are on the upper chamber of congress as this really is coming down to harry reid trying to cobble together a measure to avert the fiscal cliff. whether that can be achieved is still very much up in the air. as of right now, president obama has gone back to his original demand that the bush era tax cuts be extended only for the first $250,000 in earnings. the white house is talking to senate democrats about what their proposal may look like. but as of yet, neither is in communication with congressional republicans. and as the white house hashes out details of the reid plan with senate democrats, it's at this moment unclear exactly what form it will take, what it will look like, other than to deal no doubt wheith tax cuts. det
, the defense department, that are facing these cuts as a result of the fiscal cliff are planning already ahead knowing that there will be negotiations afterwards if no deal is reached, and believing that some type of remedy will occur. they are not really starting to cut as much as they would believing that some deal, even if it doesn't happen before january 3rd will happen after january 3rd. >> reporter: you can be sure that they are actually lobbying and actually trying to get a deal done. as we see members of wall street and ceo's saying get in there and get in the room and get a deal done. you're speaking of negotiations, prior to this standoff the negotiations between president obama and house speaker john boehner tpaeufpltd the so-called plan b alternative failed in the house. so now the senate has the hard task of doing something. so what plan do you expect senators to possibly adopt, and do they have enough time to even get a plan into place? >> it's a good question. there was a quote today in the new york times from a senior democratic aide who said it's hard to under state how little
the approaching fiscal cliff and the possibility of those tax increases and spending cuts, but i did manage to do a little shopping while i was out here and if you're good, i'll bring a little something back to you. >> oh, karen gray houston, always multi-tasking, i appreciate that. we'll see you back here. i can't wait to see what you got me. >>> meantime fox 5 is tracking santa as he gets ready to take flight. the u.s. military released this preview clip of santa claus. this is norad, the north american aerospace defense command. while we count down to christmas we are also tracking the holiday forecast. >>> fox 5's gwen tolbart joins us now from the weather center. we've asked about the chances for a white christmas. anything new tonight perhaps? >> we've got a little active weather moving into the course of tomorrow, but i am not looking at it bringing us anything in terms of a white christmas. let's look at the maps. here's a look at our satellite and radar composite, a few clouds moving into the south of us. we had rail bright day, plenty of sunshine -- a really bright day, plenty of sunshi
cliff . we get credit when we cut taxing back to the level they were before the cliff . it is it a political issue for them to attain their goalings. >> dave: some suggest that the president will be okay to go off the fiscal cliff . the president doesn't want sequestitration to go in into affect. hope they work it out. thank you for joining us from dc. coming up. unbelievably video of a plane crashed on a busy highway . we now know what likely caused the deadly crash . go ahead and down that champagne in the new year's bash. but what you can do today to make sure you don't have a hang over tomorrow. may attention. there's the sign to the bullpen. here he comes. you wouldn't want your doctor doing your job, the pitch! whoa! so why are you doing his? only yr doctor can determine if your persistent heartburn is actually something more serious like acid reflux disease. over time, stomach acid can damage the lining of your esophagus. for many, prescription nexium not only provides 24-hour heartburn relief, but can also help heal acid-related erosions in the lining of your e
for the president to go off the fiscal cliff. but both sides are saying, you know what? maybe it's better to go off the cliff. politically, members of congress will have to vet on tax cuts as opposed to now which are tax increases which are much harder to take. >> that's right. because the tax hikes will happen whether or not congress acts, so the school of thought here is that if republicans and temp kratz were to allow this just to happen, then they could vote for infect only tax cuts, not be on the record voting for tax hikes. now for the very staunch anti tax folks, it's unclear if that would really pass muster with them, but certainly this is something being considered you know, dana. >> absolutely. i'm sure the markets won't know that. brianna, good to see you. while in hawaii, president obama and first lady michelle obama paid their respects to late senator daniel inouye. inouye died last week from a respiratory illness. he was 88 years old. following that the president went to visit the grave of his old grandfather who is buried at the very same cemetery. >> he will be missed and remembered
, though. >>> just five days left until the united states crosses over the so-called fiscal cliff, and just in case washington doesn't make a deal, we're going to get you ready. every day this week we're looking at how it will affect you and your pocketbook. today we're focusing on that potentially higher tax bill. ryan mack is president of optimum capital management and joins me via skype from detroit. good morning again, ryan. >> good morning, how are you doing? >> i'm doing pretty good, but we have to talk about tax rates and after that i don't know how i'll be doing. >> i understand. i understand. >> how much higherould tax rates go? >> well, we're looking at the top tax rate going to as high as 39.6% from 35%, the discussions of compromising a level of 37%. capital gains taxes increasing from 15% to 20% pre-bush tax levels. then estate taxes going as high as 55% with the $1 million exemption and currently the 35% with a $5 million exemption so we're definitely going to see a big change coming forward. >> so when will we feel it? >> well we won't feel it until 2014, when the majority of
all know is coming, the fiscal cliff. the combination of tax hikes and spending cuts hit in just five days. you need to take a deep breath. you probably won't notice much, if anything right away, even if congress and president can't reach a deal. jessica yellin is joining us. i have not talked to a soul in the last week who believes that they are actually going to get a deal before january 1st. what is the temperature at the white house at this point? >> reporter: negotiations, candy. what do you mean by negotiations? i can actually report right now, thanks to our own ted baron and dana bash that harry reid, the senate majority leader, and minority leader mitch mcconnell are meeting right now as we speak. perhaps there could be incremental progress. but as you well know, time is running out and the president today spent his day behind closed doors. he did cut his vacation short after he came home from hawaii to at least be here and try to put on some kind of an agreement and as we go over the fiscal cliff, both sides seem to be working hard to do that. the president spoke with congres
cuts will automatically go into effect. if we do go over the fiscal cliff, how will it affect you from your paycheck to your retirement accounts? we're going to give you all the tips you need to protect yourself. here to do that this morning is ry ryan mac, president of opt middle school management. >> kudos for being able to pronounce that honolulu merry christmas saying. >> i don't think i can do it again. ahah! let's start with your paycheck as it applies to the fiscal cliff. if we go off the fiscal live how will mooirn and everybody's paycheck be affected? the majority of the paycheck won't be afeektded until 2014 when people file for 2013 stackses. there are certain things that are impacted right away like the payroll tax cut. for individuals earning about $50,000 a year, they'll be having to pay about $85 less because of the payroll tax cut will be expiring so that will be, again, almost $90 a month that will mere live come into play but the majority of the individuals when 2014, when they file their taxes they might be in for a surprise if we don't get to a deal quickly. >> what
the markets, the stability, let the bush tax cuts --. gregg: last question, marjorie. the whole fiscal cliff crisis is all about finding a way to cut the $16 trillion plus debt. and yet the president is demanding new spending, more spending. is it no wonder that people think he is just not serious about this? >> well, i think it's a reexamination of spending. i think that is more realistic way to look at it. you can't cut specific programs. gregg: he is saying give me 50 billion more. >> we know that -- >> increasing is reevaluating it meaning to add more tonight. what we know over 60% of the americans don't want social security, they still want medicare. gregg: we are not taking away medicare and social security. >> marjorie we're sustaining them for future generations because they're on a path of unsustainability. >> you know what i'm going to do? get my little elf on the shelf and put them in the halls of congress and report back to santa all the bad behavior going on. we need compromise, no question. >> the grinch is in hawaii. gregg: if we could put you two together in a room i know we
motive. >> terrible story. a week before the fiscal cliff, tax hikes for all americans and spending cuts that could pull the economy back into recession. ho, ho, ho. that makes everybody happy on christmas morning. president obama spent christmas eve playing a round of golf with friends and the democratic senate looks like the only hope for crushing the deadlock. our white house correspondent brianna keilar maybe with a little bit of news which is pathetic because it's talks within the democratic party, but at least they are talking. >> reporter: that's right. is it really news that democrats are talking? that's all the news we have to report as of today. i know i feel a little bit like a grinch reporting this, but the white house is in talks with senate democrats. that's not really surprising as we look to the senate to be the next -- really the next ones to act on this when they reconvene on the 27th. right now it's really up to senate majority leader harry reid to try to cobble something together that can get some republican support in the senate and the house to avoid the fiscal clif
that are the other part of the fiscal cliff will likely set in. and then what happens there will maybe be something that democrats and republicans try to deal with in the coming weeks, in the coming months. that means even come say the end of the year here or if we go over the cliff and there's some quick resolution, it's not for everything and we'll be dealing with a lot of these problems for some time, carol. >> what's the president doing in hawaii? >> reporter: the president has been getting in some r and r. he arrived saturday morning. he played golf with some of his buddies. he wept outer with his wife. yesterday he attended the ceremony for senator daniel inn way. and then he went for a hike in the afternoon with his daughters. this may be his one chance for a vacation and you may recall he didn't get one this summer. he decided not to go on his normal vacation in the election year. so this is really it for him. >> brianna keilar, thank you. >>> the gun control debate is intensifying. the nra's executive vice president made the circuit on sunday morning. he went on "meet the press" saying cal
on in congress and the potential fiscal cliff we are facing and the elimination of the tax cuts. a lot of the small business owners i talked to and know are in favor of keeping the tax cuts in place especially for the middle class. we believe in balanced approach and we think it's ok to allow the elimination of the tax cuts for the wealthy. as taxes increase, the taxes at my business will be effected and i will have less to pay for investments and new equipment, hiring new people, but personally my income tax rates will go up. it's already a financially constrained environment. but customers tax rates will go up creating less demand for my products and less revenue for me and less tax revenue for the government. i want to urge congress and senators to vote for keeping our tax cuts in place, especially for the middle class and pushing our fiscal crisis to a balanced approach. go ahead and eliminate those tax cuts for the wealthiest individuals. if we all look at it and tried to consider what was going to work for the best, we needed to look at consumer demand. consumer demand is in the
press that folks are starting to accept that weekend in fact plunge right off that fiscal cliff. after all we are a little more than a week away from the deadline when the spending cuts and push us back into another recession. lawmakers do plan to return to washington later this week to try to hammer out a last-minute deal. for now president obama and the first family are celebrating christmas in hawaii and that's where our ed henry is traveling with the president now live in honolulu. ed? bottom line the president is here in hawaii but might not be here for long. shortly after christmas likely to go back to washington. try and broker some sort of a deal. you remember before he left for hawaii, he announced that he wanted more of a short-term deal. sort of scaled back stop gap measure so that that big grand 4 trillion-dollar. instead he wanted to extend tax cuts for the middle class. he wanted to extend benefits for 2 million people that will lose those benefits a week after christmas. republicans are saying they think the president actually wants to go off the fiscal cliff for politic
. >> reporter: the president focusing his comments on the tax side of this so-called fiscal cliff. but as mike so aptly pointed out, there is the sequester, the massive spending cuts that would largely target the defense department. those are coming due as well at the beginning of the year. senator lindsay graham was on fox news sunday and told chris wallace, he got a call from the defense secretary, leon panetta, who said, even if there is a deal on the hitt hill to deal with the tax side of all of this, secretary panetta does not think there will be a deal to stop the massive defense is cuts. lindsay graham and others saying they are deeply concerned, whether there is a deal or not on the tax side, there could be a massive hit on the pentagon budget and what that means for our national defense. big deal. >> absolutely. thanks. joining us for a closer look at the fiscal cliff negotiations, ron johnson, a member of the appropriations and budget committees in the senate. thank you for taking a break from a busy time to visit with us. >> thank you. >> i want to get a response from the comments t
to reach a fiscal cliff deal. the senate and house are expected to reconvene tomorrow. we're six days away from possible across the board tax increases and spending cuts. >>> former president george h.w. bush is still in a houston hospital. his wife, barbara, and other relatives at his side. the 88-year-old has been in the hospital for more than a month with a lingering cough and recently had a low grade fever. doctors remain cautiously optimistic about a full recovery. >>> a claim of facebook privacy breach within the zuckerberg family. his sister says a family photo was reposted by another person on twitter. randy zuckerberg called the woman out. the woman apologized said it was public because it was in her facebook newsfeed. >>> in china the longest high speed railway opens, connects beijing with guangzhou, 1,500 in eight hours, but tickets start at $138, and they're a little pricey for some people and many travelers say it's cheaper and faster to fly. >>> a report just out this morning shows home prices up in october, the biggest annual gain in more than two years. alison kosik joins u
. unfortunately, they agree that going over the fiscal cliff is now a real possibility. you got the democrats, the white house republicans. they all say it is possible they're not going to reach a deal to avoid the massive tax increases and spending cuts that will take place in just eight days brianna keeler is in honolulu. i'm not going to tease you about hawaii being a junket, because i know it's hard work and you're doing something. >> thank you. >> absolutely. i'm a little jealous of the water and backdrop and sand. never mind. i won't hate here. tell us, are there any conversations that are going on between the president, the republicans, the democrats, anybody to aavoid the fiscal cliff? >> reporter: well, this is what may be alarming to learn, suzanne. obviously, the white house is always in concert with senate democrats. there's always an open line of communication there, but there are really no substantive discussions going on with the white house and senate democrats with republicans both in the house and the senate. that may seem troubling at this point, because obviously eyes are
about running off the fiscal cliff. the deadline for preventing tax hikes and government spending cuts is just one week from today. the president and congress return to washington later this week. it's likely they'll work right to new year's eve. one possibility is striking a deal on taxes but leaving the spending for later. >>> overseas now, where an american has been killed by an afghan policewoman. the attack took place at police head quarters in kabul. where there have been similar insider attacks, this is the first time a female security officer has been involved. >>> the nra is not backing away from its call for armed officers in our nation's schools. and the group vows to fight any effort by congress to strengthen gun control laws. now congressman chris murphy, whose district includes newtown, calls the stance "tone deaf and revolting." >>> a real christmas gift, it would be getting to where you're going on time today. storms are causing major travel trouble throughout the nation. it's not only trying to get through snow-covered roads. rain and wind are grounding flights in the
service for senator daniel inouye yesterday for his burial. but, obviously a fiscal cliff still very much on his mind. that short-term deal he was talking about on friday was basically extending middle class tax cuts, $250,000, or below, even though that has been controversyal. even though republicans have not signed onto that. he wants to extend unemployment benefits for two million americans about to lose them after a week if there is no deal. as you noted he wanted to push spending cuts to january which is upsetting republicans like john barrasso. take a listen. >> when i listen to the president i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. i think he see as political victory at the bottom of the cliff. he gets tax revenue for new programs. and gets to cut military which democrats calling for years and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> reporter: now democrats insist that is nonsense. they say the president since the election has been working with the republicans trying to figure out some sort of solution to this crisis. they note that they believe is
. that fiscal cliff we've already reached. that is going to be in this starting point deal. now, things we're less clear on. for example, the budget cuts that are impending for most of government, and also the debt ceiling. those are two items that we think may not be in a deal. may be kicked down the road. either those budget cuts will hit and will last, or there will be a different fix later. that's where things seem to be right now, but those are a little bit more up in the air. >> lisa, does that extension for tax cuts for everyone over $250,000, is that for households or for individuals? >> that $250,000 is for individuals. >> okay, okay. i see. so how long do lawmakers have to make a deal at this point? >> right. i just want to make sure we're clear. they want to extend the tax cuts for people whose family income is under $250,000. so people making above that would see their taxes increase under that potential deal. so how long do they have? well, until the very last minute, and maybe even beyond. the truth is, this deadline has always been seen at january 1st. monday night, december
of the tax situation and pending cuts, do you see anything from the fiscal cliff? >> i think the average consumer doesn't understand the fiscal cliff but i think they watch the news and understand something is wrong and people are very worried about it. i think that the way things stand now, if we do go over the cliff, it is going to be most of an impact for lower end consumer. i think the higher end consumer still has an ability to spend. certainly maybe a bit more cognizant of impaktd opinion but their ability to spend on discretionary categories, it is not hammered to the extent it'll cause major pull back in spending and categories of things we cover. maybe they won't buy boats and homes, but i think sweaters and watches will sell good in that category. >> that is certainly a big, big worry but again a worry for lower end consumer. more so than the higher end consumer. if you look at employment trends, high end versus low end, it is a very different story and i think that the lower end consumer is the consumer i'm most worried about if we good over the fiscal cliff. >> what do you th
, both sides, now, looming, four days from the fiscal cliff. everybody's taxes will be going up if we go over it. drastic budget cuts will be going into effect. and leaders in washington have agreed to talk there's a meeting scheduled this afternoon at the white house. abc's chief white house correspondent, jonathan karl, joins us now to tell us what we can expect today. both sides agreeing to meet. we want to take a listen to sound from both sides. the looks of things, no one may be getting too far down the road. first, let's listen to what senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said yesterday on the senate floor. >> i told the president we'd be happy to look at what he proposes. but the truth is, we're coming up against a hard deadline here. and republicans aren't going to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> meanwhile, the senate majority leader, now, had even harsher words for gop leadership. >> the house of representatives is operating out the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dic
, but the reality is that talks are largely deadlocked over the fiscal cliff. there have been a few conversations going on at the staff level but really the expectation is that the hard work is going to get done when lawmakers return to washington after the christmas holiday, a little bit later on this week. that's when they're going to resume negotiations in earnest. of course there had been hopes that the president and house speaker john boehner were going to get a deal done. if you looked at the beginning of last week, they were getting close to a deal it appeared but that fell apart and talks fell apart. president obama said i will accept a smaller deal as long as it doesn't allow rates for those to go up for those making $250,000 or less. over the weekend you had a few senators, including senator joe lieberman saying they believe now more than ever we may be getting closer to actually going over the fiscal cliff. that is of course hanging over the heads of a lot of americans as they enter this holiday season and also looming over this vacation the president is having. i'll give you a little
over the fiscal cliff must start in the senate. >> gretchen: a lot of people were upset because members of congress just can't seem to get their act together or the president, depending on which side of the fence that you're on of the they were upset that they went on christmas vacations. the president went to hawaii and members of congress went home. both sides said we're going to come back to washington because we've got to solve the situation. i think what so many people are frustrated about is this is an ongoing situation. it's like every year we come to this point where we're talk being this cliff and this is what i think has angered so many voters and why congress has such a low approval rating. >> rick: they also got to this point because of their last time they did this. it was the last debt creating fight that deleted this thing. now they gave themselves an amount of time to work on it you and thought maybe last week there was a little progress being made. turns out there is not. we're back to exactly where we started at and we're eight days out now. >> clayton: you're right ab
some of the spending cuts that are part of this so-called fiscal cliff. republicans want to see more deficit reduction. democrats say that could come later, but this would be a smaller plan. there are really some serious differences and not a lot of time left. congress has created its own deadline to this so-called fiscal cliff and now has to live by it over the next several hours to see if something can get done. erica? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you. chuck todd is nbc's political director. kelly mentioned some constructive movement but then there's this chasm we keep hearing about. is there a chance for a deal? >> i think -- i want to say yes, there's a chance for a deal! they're not that far apart. it really depends on the political motivations of the people at the negotiating table. you think about joe biden and mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell is totally looking at this through a political lens, what is in the best interest of republicans in his view? from what i understand in his view he thinks what's in the best interest of the republican party is getting the tax issue off the
today, the fiscal cliff. and you may be asking yourself, why is this so important? what is so cataclysmic about our nation's finances that we need to implement these monster tax increases and make draconian spending cuts. well, if you want to understand the government and its problems, take a look at these numbers. let's start with tax revenue. these are the nation's tax revenues. what you have your is just over 2 trillion in income. that's all it is really. and look at these euros. a very big number. the spending in the federal budget. you will notice to these numbers bigger than that. not good. the deficit, like how much debt or adding. over a trillion. just when you're. federal government running a a tab of a trillion. we talk about this number of the time. let's get this zero's again. a very big number. tough to get your arms around these numbers. when you see it on a piece of paper it's easier. i thought it would be even easier if we thought about one american household. what if each of those numbers translate it into one family. if you ran the household like the federal
our economy back into the recession if we go over the fiscal cliff. >> but ali, neither side is budging much. you have been reporting on it for the last couple of hours. friday though, president obama said that he was optimistic that the two sides could reach a deal. this morning, he sounded less positive though. >> if, you know, if people start seeing that on january 1st, this problem still has not been solved, that we haven't seen the kind of deficit reduction that we could have had, had the republicans been willing to take the deal they gave them, and if they say that people's taxes have gone up which means consumer spending will go down. >> and keep in mind that the senate is the first hurdle. any deal has to pass the house. we are not into the senate yet and the republican speaker john boehner plablamed the crisis one president saying he the one who has never found a way to say yes. >> so you are in new york and i'm in atlanta, and we get to washington now, because the senior congressional correspondent dana bash is closely following the negotiations from capitol hill, a
. because president obama perfectly going over the fiscal cliff to blame republicans because he can't default on the debt. he will have to compromise between now and february. second of all the baseline gets reset if the tax cuts expire. everybody will propose a tax cut in january and right now we're fighting whether to increase taxes or not. you can see possibility of a deal seen as win-win for both sides. third, if republicans don't come up with a deal, a bad deal right now, they still have the $800 billion in revenue they put on the table from limiting deductions and loopholes that they can use to buy down rates. so i think the odds are, after january 1 we will get a deal and it will be much more favorable deal to the republican party because we'll have the leverage and president obama won't. heather: simon, basically what mark's laid out there would be more of a bunge jump over the cliff instead after nosedive, what do you think about the possibility, good thing or bad? >> i think it is going to happen whether it is good or bad. hopefully in the first week to 10 days of the new
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